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A young couple seeks refuge under a bridge during the Tiananmen Square Massacre on June 5, 1989. Photographer: Liu Heung Shing

Pulitzer Prize-winning photojournalist Liu Heung Shing is releasing collection 88 rare photographs giving us a glimpse of day-to-day life in China under communism. China, Portrait of a Country, which will be released in the United States on August 1, 2008, captures the People's Republic from 1949 to 2008.

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Boycott Beijing 2008

Boycott Beijing for:

1. Tiananmen
2. Tibet
3. Burma
4. Darfur

Thanks!

What about the poor Mongols

What about the poor Mongols of Inner Mongolia?

Get a life

Bad things happen worldwide why pick on china just because china is becoming a super-power.
Your just jealous that 25 years ago chinese were nothing but subsistence level farmers and now they are joining the ranks of the worlds developed advanced economies and now you and your kids have to compete with them.
This nonsense about Darfur, Tibet is so silly. What powerful country has not done anything "bad" in the last decade?

'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool...

Darfur is nonsense? Why not tell that to the millions of people murdered in genocide? oh wait, you can't tell them. they're dead. instead of pratting about 'picking on china' because they're a super power and defending them by saying how other powerful countries have done bad things in the last decade why not read a book or step out of your basement and see the world for what it really is. What they're doing in Dafur is exactly what the Nazi's did to the Jews during the Holocaust, and frankly if you're going to defend that then you have a far bigger host of problems than can be dealt with in a comments message board. Go get yourself some professional help.

It sounds like you are

It sounds like you are excusing what is happening in Tibet... You dont happen to work for the government do you?

It's absolutely fair to pick

It's absolutely fair to pick on China. Its also fair to pick on the UK, Russia, The USA, Australia, and every other developed country that has blood on its hands. ie. All of them.

Claiming that someone else has done something bad, and that makes your bad somehow more acceptable, is an extremely weak defense. We should be publicizing all the injustices, no matter who perpetrates them. In the West this tends to be continuous. The atrocities our governments commit are made public knowledge. We all know about the various illegal wars and massacres the major countries, including our own, have done. This is where China is different. The vast majority of Chinese don't even know what happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989. For instance, as an Australian I know that my government had its hand in the massacre of East Timorise by the Indonesians, I know about our blatant oil grabs from surrounding offshore fields, about the colonialist attitude towards the pacific islands, about nuclear testing on Aborigines, about the systematic stealing of Aboriginal children from their families. And I DON'T defend it just because other countries are worse. And if you bought it up as a negative point about Australia, I'd agree with you. Only once we are informed can we start to see the big picture, and plot a course about what needs to be done.

Think outside the mind trap that Chinese nationalism has cast you in...

wrong date

June 4th. Honestly, some people..

You have no life

"This nonsense about Darfur, Tibet is so silly"

Nice to see that you think murder, torture, and rape are so funny. Many powerful countries have done "bad" things in the last decade, but China is at the top of the list. The big difference is that the citizens of those other countries can bring the atrocities to light and hold their governments responsible. You can't do this in China without fear of being imprisoned or executed for dissent. But I guess when your entire system of government is based on repressing the general population to serve the needs of local Party Officials then events like Darfur or Tibet seem funny...

What about America??

Ok so what about the crimes that America has committed. I am guessing you guys are all from america seen as though you conveniently skirted the issue. China is doing no worse than what the americans have done in Iraq and Afganistan and the way america imprisons and tortures its foreign terror suspects which completely flys in the face of the democracy and constitution which america is at pains to point out to the international community. Frankly you are hypocrites, sort out your own problems first before attack others

Who said anything about America being in the right?

So let me get this straight. We aren't allowed to comment on the horrible atrocities taking place in other countries, simply because our own country commits them? That doesn't make sense you fucking moron.

Two wrongs don't make a

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Nazi Olympics

We wouldn't let Nazi Germany host the olympics, why China?

Hmm.. previous comment

Hmm.. previous comment didn't post?

Anyways, though I agree with you in spirit, Nazi Germany did indeed host the Olympic Games in 1936.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Summer_Olympics

@NoctheniK: Although I agree

@NoctheniK:

Although I agree with you in spirit, the Olympic Games were in fact held in Nazi Germany in 1936.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Summer_Olympics

To get a life:

We hear the same stuff about America. Its about time that country is held accountable for something

For Whom the Bell Tolls

No man is an island, entire of itself; every
man is a piece of the continent, a part of the
main. If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory
were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or
of thine own were: any man's death diminishes
me, because I am involved in mankind, and
therefore never send to know for whom the bells
tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

Every time we buy a shirt or a toy from China we take a small amount of responsibility for torture and murder. We decay just a bit when we let this happen, because we are the oppressors and the killers and the torturers. It is our choice to either summit or to fight.

Kmuzu

Who hears the same stuff

Who hears the same stuff about America? What is the same stuff? At least that sort of "silly, genocidal, massacre-type activities" hasn't been happening in America in the past 100+ years. In the United States of America, we at least try to make life better. We don't always succeed, but we do make good things happen from time to time.

Caption

That caption is nonsense. Look at the photo, they are not seeking refuge under a bridge. They are riding under the bridge and are about to exit. The propaganda against China is generally a bunch of BS. I personally would condemn China for its support of capitalism and not allowing their workers to organize. Look at most of the supposed photos of Chinese repression in Tibet and you will find that a lot of the photos are in fact Nepalese military cracking down in Nepal. Chinese soldiers do not have blue cammo uniforms! Perfect example is in this link. This caption at least doesn't claim the soldiers are chinese, but it does try to skirt the issue that they are Nepalese. This article is completely honest in its caption. However, you must ask yourself why they are showing Nepalese attacking Tibetans when the article is about China's crackdown. Most people don't read the caption, that is why. They want to portray the Chinese government as an evil oppressor. Here is probably the most dishonest one, because there is no caption at all. This article is the most photographically honest piece, since it shows only images of things going on in Tibet. Notice, you do not see any beatings in these photos. The article does claim that up to 100 have been killed. However, notice that there is no claim that Chinese Soldiers had killed anyone. But, the tone of the article tries to suggest that the people were killed by the military. Read carefully though; the article does state that Tibetans were killing Han Chinese. I don't know if this was where the majority of the deaths came from, but I would guess it is a good amount.

Also, why should we support an oligarch's repressive rule in Tibet? I fully support Tibet sovereignty, and China's does give Tibet autonomy. However, is it really autonomy when the ruling class are all Han Chinese?

Spinning

That caption is nonsense. Look at the photo, they are not seeking refuge under a bridge. They are riding under the bridge and are about to exit. The propaganda against China is generally a bunch of BS. I personally would condemn China for its support of capitalism and not allowing their workers to organize. Look at most of the supposed photos of Chinese repression in Tibet and you will find that a lot of the photos are in fact Nepalese military cracking down in Nepal. Chinese soldiers do not have blue cammo uniforms! Perfect example is in this link. This caption at least doesn't claim the soldiers are chinese, but it does try to skirt the issue that they are Nepalese. This article is completely honest in its caption. However, you must ask yourself why they are showing Nepalese attacking Tibetans when the article is about China's crackdown. Most people don't read the caption, that is why. They want to portray the Chinese government as an evil oppressor. Here is probably the most dishonest one, because there is no caption at all. This article is the most photographically honest piece, since it shows only images of things going on in Tibet. Notice, you do not see any beatings in these photos. The article does claim that up to 100 have been killed. However, notice that there is no claim that Chinese Soldiers had killed anyone. But, the tone of the article tries to suggest that the people were killed by the military. Read carefully though; the article does state that Tibetans were killing Han Chinese. I don't know if this was where the majority of the deaths came from, but I would guess it is a good amount.

Also, why should we support an oligarch's repressive rule in Tibet? I fully support Tibet sovereignty, and China's does give Tibet autonomy. However, is it really autonomy when the ruling class are all Han Chinese?

China should be accountable

If China is a human rights violator, people should take actions against them.

I just don't know if boycotts and the famines they can induce would send the right message--or even accomplish the right goals.

Boycotting the chinese

Boycotting the chinese olympics would be more likely to lead to starvation in north america than in china. Do you know where your so much of your food comes from?

a couple of things

I think NoctheniK knew that Nazi Germany hosted the olympics, he/she was saying that to make a point.
And as far as human rights issues, ever since 9/11, most of the developed world is guilty of that- floating prisons, suspension of Habeas Corpus, torture, long term detentions without any accusations/evidence. These are things the U.S. and the U.K. are both guilty of...

Wow, please support China.

Wow, please support China. The more support it gets the better China will become. Thanks!

Increíble, precioso. El

Increíble, precioso. El Amor en estado puro sobreviviendo incluso a las peores guerras.

we are taught the wrong doings of others but never of our own

"Wow, please support China. The more support it gets the better China will become. Thanks!"

Thats the opposite of what needs to happen.

AND I'm calling EVERY country out that has ever done harm to another country. INCLUDING the united states of america.

Its easy to point and blame but much harder to take a look in the mirror isnt it?

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